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Tropes of fanfic and pop culture as first spotted in classical literature:

1. The Mook - discovered by Livy (thanks to [livejournal.com profile] prochytes for pointing this one out, and setting me off on this train of thought): "I doubt not but that...to persons reading of so many wars waged with the Volscians, this same circumstance will suggest itself, which often served as an occasion of surprise to me when perusing the writers who lived nearer to the times of these occurrences, from what source the Volscians and Æquans, so often vanquished, could have procured supplies of soldiers." . The Volscians existed to attack en masse and have their arses kicked. Like ninjas, or orcs,or Imperial Guard.

2. Slash fic - possibly the first example would be Achilles/Patroclus, given that Homer never explicitly states they're a couple, but they act so much like one that everyone else has kept on writing them as one. [livejournal.com profile] prochytes also mentioned a play in which is was suggested that Heracles performed his Twelve Labours because he was in love with Eurystheus, but I'm having trouble tracking this one down.

3. The Deconstructor Fleet - Neon Genesis Evangelion did it to giant robot anime, Watchmen did it to superhero comics, and Euripides' Electra did it to the Oresteia. It's all answering the same question: just how badly screwed up would these people actually be, and would you want to run into any of them in real life?

Also there's the Take That in which Euripides takes a moment out from the plot in Electra to discuss how implausible the scene where Electra recognises Orestes as her long-lost brother is in Aeschylus' version.

Actually, Euripides comes over to me as clearly hating an awful lot of the tropes of Greek tragedy and wanting to produce works that really, really screwed around with them. There is a reason why I keep picturing Euripides as Warren Ellis in a tunic and sandals.

4. Fix-it Fic/Ret Con - Euripides again, in as close to fluffy mode as he can manage, specifically Helen. In which it is revealed that Paris ran off with an illusory Helen, and the real Helen has been languishing in Egypt, hence was never unfaithful to Menelaus and they can get back together and sail off into the sunset.

Can anyone think of any others?
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Let's get one thing straight - I quite liked Narnia. Lewis had a real knack for striking imagery, and for mixing the cosy with the compellingly bizarre - behind the coats in the old wardrobe, there's a snowy pine forest with a lamp-post in the middle of it, where a faun emerges from the woods with an umbrella and invites you to tea. That's good children's fantasy in microcosm, there - Enid Blyton reimagined by Rene Magritte. Criticising it for inconsistent world-building is kind of missing the point, since this is pure Fantasy Soup, running entirely off Lewis' personal Rule of Cool. That's why you get Father Christmas in one book, Bacchus and the Maenads in the next, and a medieval romance complete with trippy and bizarre islands after that. Even if, as you get older and more critical, the Christian allegory starts to look a bit heavy-handed, and the authorial voice seems to take on a certain smugness as it describes the Important Moral Lessons the characters learn, and the Dante-like relish for inventing comeuppances for the kind of people Lewis didn't approve of starts to grate, there's plenty of good, powerful stuff in there.

Let me also make it clear that I loved Northern Lights and quite liked The Subtle Knife, although I felt that The Amber Spyglass got me over the back of the head with a dull thud. As an attempt at post-Christian mythmaking, trying to create a narrative about growing up, the loss of innocence and the awareness of death that doesn't draw on cultural assumptions inherited from the Church, it was a brave but ultimately unsuccessful experiment. As a deconstruction of Narnia, it really didn't cut the mustard.

Thing is, the deconstruction of Narnia's been done, in the 60s, by Alan Garner. It's called Elidor.

Cut for rambling and spoilers )

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